Bad Move Guiza and other Transfer News

By: Jeremy | July 8th, 2008

Now that we have definitely lost two of our heros, I wanted to give my thoughts on these transfers out as well as mention some other transfers in that kind of fell under the radar which I failed to mention in my last post.

Fan favorite Ibagazas transfer has been confirmed to Villarreal and it is a good move for him as he wants to improve his level of competition and pocketbook. The same cannot be said for Dani Guiza. It has long been rumored that he has all but signed for Fenerbache in Turkey, but his noteworthy performance in Euro 2008 seemed to make him think he could get offers elsewhere. This clearly shows Turkey was not his first choice even if Aragones would be his coach but I guess he got impatient and wanted to make a decision.

Who knows what other offers were out there or if Turkey paid more all around then anyone else would have, but this is a bad move for his career in my opinion. I have no doubt that Turkey probably offered the most money and willingly gave Mallorca the 15-17 mil they wanted in a transfer fee, but I wonder if his girlfriend could ever think about something other then the money. I cant believe that he could not attract serious attention from Barca or a club like Arsenal or even Roma where if he signed there, he could really up his world profile with another dominating season. He has that kind of talent. While a move from one big club to another does not always guarantee success and can be a total failure for some players, ie Shevchenko and maybe even Henry, a move from a midlevel club to another club that isnt in one of the big three leagues, who albeit is in the Champions League every year, it is not a move that will further develop his career. Turkey is an inferior league and no matter how much he dominates, he would be better known as a footballer if he tried his luck with a big club. Considering he also likes Spain, the cultural transition will not be easy. Guiza has done wonders for Mallorca and is no doubt a talent, but I think whomever advises him made a bad move here. He will score goals, but will basically be an afterthought in Europe. I am sure Barca, Arsenal, or Roma wanted him and a deal was there to be made, but when Nuria answers my emails for a response, Ill get back to you. With Guizas good looks and talent, combined with a hot wife, he could have become the Spanish version of Beckham or something close. To see how Torres took a move to Liverpool and raised his profile was what Guiza should have done.

With two big names now gone, we have to regroup. The four players previously mentioned in my last post have the best chance to make a difference, but we have added two other players who I did not mention because I was hoping to get more players to add to them before discussing them. With the other four coming so quickly, these guys became an afterthought. The two players I am talking about are Lionel Scaloni and Ayoze Diaz.

Scaloni is a 30 yr old Argentine defender who we got from Lazio on a 12 month loan. Hes very familiar to Spanish fans as he played from 98-06 for Deportivo and was a very important defender for them. He managed to secure a spot for Argentina in World Cup 2006, but the past two years he has done nothing. He spent last year doing nothing in Lazio after a year with Racing with limited appearances. He is clearly on the downside of his career and hoping to get some action in Mallorca. I do not expect much from him and he will be an afterthought on our team next year.

The other player we player we picked up was from Racing as well. Ayoze Diaz is a midfielder who is 26. He did nothing for Racing last year after playing the year before with Real Murcia. He is another one of those guys who is a fringe La Liga player. He got some real playing time from 03-06 with Racing but did not emerge to the point where they saw him in their future. Maybe Racing has improved to the point where they can discard players like this who can turn out to make a difference on another LaLiga club, but I have my doubts. Racing for the most part is relegation fodder and like Mallorca has dodged relegation miraculously on more then one occasion. Now that they edged us for the UEFA Cup spot, maybe they are bringing in talent that allows Diaz to be a help for us, but I am not big on him at all.

It is clear that we are not matching what we are losing, but that is to be expected. I have hope for Juardo and even Josemi, but a lot must go our way to allow us to finish in the top ten next year. I hope Manzano is on the hunt for another striker because we need one. He is stockpiling defenders and midfielders hoping one emerges, but hopefully he sees what a great striker can do as we were outscoring teams last year which is the way to be successful in LaLiga. This is not Italy and with the offense we now have, we will be losing a lot of 1-0 and 2-1 games.

Thanks to Guiza and Ibagaza for all they did to raise the profile of this club. It is a sad day to lose so much talent so quickly with no comparable replacements in sight for now. Hopefully we will get another player or two before the window closes.





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  • Mauro |  July 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

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    Sorry to hear about your team’s losses.

    I do know a bit about Lionel Scaloni to share with you. He earned a name for himself at the U20 level when José Pekerman was his coach. While he was with the U20s he was an adept defender who would venture forward on occasion but never really had outstanding technical abilities.

    With Deportivo, he was unable to become a regular starter and due to the many coaches his squad went through, some coaches liked his style and some didn’t, which only made it harder for him to get more playing time. He was the enforcer of the squad and tried to impose that role into the many clubs he’s been to since then.

    He was called up to the Argentine squad for the World Cup in Germany in 2006 solely because he was one of Pekerman’s players at a young age. Javier Zanetti, a starter in many people’s opinions, was left off this squad precisely for not being one of Pekerman’s players.

    Scaloni, like I said, is an enforcer, a hard tackler with a big squarish body and not much technical ability. He’s not my favorite for the national team or my favorite club team. He’s also a touch hot-headed and has earned himself a red card on quite a few occasions. I guess you should play him at your own risk or maybe your coach will find a way to get something out of him no one else has been able to.

    Good luck.

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  • Omur |  July 8th, 2008 at 10:35 pm

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    I disagree that his move to Fener is that bad. Fener topped Sevilla last year in CL and came close to eliminating Chelsea (if it wasn’t for unbelievable mistakes by Zico in the away game). This is a team with great aspirations. Succeeding in CL with a team like Fener would give Guiza even more press than being yet another guy in the bench in a team like Barca or Arsenal. In a way, he will be even more challenged in Fener than he would be in a top-tier club. There will be nowhere to hide. He will have to stand up and deliver each and every time. He’s the guy hired for the hero role… Elsewhere, he would just be a supporting player.

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  • frem |  July 9th, 2008 at 12:02 am

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    guiza isnt planning to end his days at fener, he went there because aragones is there and they play at CL level something mallorca isnt doing, if he performs well in CL then more clubs will be interested and he can move to greener pastures. Also the turkish league isnt that shit, its about a tier 3 level, just slightly weaker then the dutch league.

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  • john |  July 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

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    I’m actually excited about the move. Though I don’t typically follow the Turkish League, I try to catch the Fener/Gala derbies, and follow the teams in European competitions. Fenerbahce is exceptional for their style of play, which combines fast pace/attacking football (that seems to be, thankfully, coming back in fashion), with a more physical side, and having a finisher like Guiza will make them a serious threat. I look forward to watching them play.

    But still, I hate watching Spanish talent leave Spain. Good luck to your islanders in finding a quality replacement. You do usually manage.

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  • Alon |  July 10th, 2008 at 9:23 am

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    hey Jeremy/mallorca fans..are you remember Albert Luque? the striker who was in our club and in the depor one of the best striker in Spain and in Europe. his career is starting to falling down after bad time at newcasle and ajax and now he is a free player. he was grow up in Mallorca young teams, was on of the key player of the mallorca gold era with Etoo, Roaand more,was spain national team member and i really love his style of play. i think if he come back to his home country he can be good again..i whould love to see him come. as you said now that guiza left and we have only webo as a well knowen striker Manzano is looking for another striker and he want soldado from real madrid..but i prefer luque.
    Keep the good job Jeremy
    greeting.

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  • Dave |  July 10th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

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    Guiza should come to england.He will get his place in any of the big 4 teams.Wish Sunderland had him

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  • Peter |  July 11th, 2008 at 6:12 am

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    Hi Mallorca fan deeply disturbed with all financial problems going on at the club and lack of information, 10 years in LA Liga top flight carefull budgeting believed the club was plodding along now all this help me understand whats happening.

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  • Elisa |  July 14th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

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    I think Fener is a solid club. I hope to see Guiza in Europe and kick ass. He is the largest transfer ever to Turkey.

    I heard that Mallorca is not interested in Luque due to the wage bill he is demanding.

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  • Alon |  July 21st, 2008 at 4:46 pm

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    hello!? are you sleep Jeremy? our club is sold! to a grupo of english milloners! i think it is very good notice, vincent grande was good prestiend but now we have better. with a lot of money we can bring big names, i hope this move was for the best to us.
    and in the signing news, we sign 2 new players. the left defender enrique corrales from osasuna, and our former home player pep lluis marti(he was born in mallorca and grow up our cantera)from sevilla. marti is a good player with exprience in the highst level. corrales i dont know him.
    greeting and hopes too see more of your greats posts jeremy:-)
    alon

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